Royal Descendants

Margaret, Lady Bryan (c. 1468 - c. 1551/52) was Lady Governess to Henry VII's children: Princess Mary daughter of Catherine of Aragon, Princess Elizabeth daughter of Anne Boleyn and Prince Edward son of Lady Jane Seymour. She was born Margaret Bourchier in about 1468 in Beningbrough, Yorkshire, England. Her mother was Elizabeth Tilney and her father was Sir Humphrey Bourchier.   Margaret's paternal great-grandmother, Anne of Woodstock,  Countess of Buckingham was the granddaughter of King Edward III.   Margaret has a familial relationship to three of Henry VIII's wives.  She is a half aunt to both Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard, also Margaret's grandmother is a great grandmother of Jane Seymour. 

Margaret Bourchier was married three times. Her first husband, with whom there may only have been a marriage agreement was Sir John Sandes (or Sandys).  She married Sir Thomas Bryan sometime before 1490. As Lady Bryan, she was a Lady-in-waiting to Catherine of Aragon and was present at Catherine's wedding to Henry VIII in 1509.  Known as Lady Bryan initially because of her husband's knighthood, she claimed to have been made Baroness Bryan suo jure on 18 February 1516, upon the birth of Princess Mary, when she was appointed as Mary's Lady Governess.  Sir Thomas Bryan died sometime before 1517, and Margaret Bryan married her third husband, David Souche (or Zoche) in or before 1519. 

Margaret Bourchier's mother Elizabeth Tilney, Countess of Surrey (before 1445 – 4 April 1497) was an English heiress and lady-in-waiting to two queens.  One was Queen Elizabeth Woodville (Woodville or Wydeville or Widvile) consort of Edward IV, and later as Lady of the Bedchamber to the Queen's daughter, Elizabeth of York, consort of King Henry VII of England.  Elizabeth Tilney carried Elizabeth Woodville's train at the queen's coronation in May 1465 at Westminster Abbey.  Elizabeth accompanied the Queen and her children into sanctuary at Westminster Abbey when King Edward IV had been ousted from the throne, Elizabeth was present at the birth of the future King Edward V.  She remained with the Queen until Edward IV was restored to power.

Elizabeth Tilney was the grandmother of two of Henry VIII queens Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard.  Elizabeth married first Sir Humphrey Bourchier he was killed at Battle of Barnet on 14 April 1471 fighting on the Yorkish side.     They had a son and two daughters.  Elizabeth's second marriage was arranged by the King, she married Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey a close friend and companion of Richard, Duke of Gloucester who was crowned king in 1483. Elizabeth was one of Queen Anne Neville's attendants at Richard's coronation, while Elizabeth second husband Thomas Howard bore the Sword of State.  In November 1487, Thomas and Elizabeth attended the coronation of Henry VII's consort Elizabeth of York, who appointed Elizabeth a Lady of the Bedchamber. Elizabeth was further honored by being asked to stand as joint godmother to the Princess Margaret Tudor at her baptism in late 1489.  With her second married Elizabeth Tilney became Duchess of Norfolk.  The marriage produced nine children.  Elizabeth's granddaughters included not only Queen Katherine Howard and Queen Anne Boleyn, but also three of Henry VIII's mistresses, Elizabeth Carew, Mary Boleyn and, allegedly, Mary Howard, Duchess of Richmond. 

The mother of Elizabeth Tilney was Elizabeth Cheney (1422 – 25 September 1473) she was an English aristocrat. Elizabeth Cheney first married was Sir Frederick Tilney, with him she became Lady Tilney.  Her second husband was Sir John Say, Speaker of the House of Commons, with him she became Lady Say.  She had a total of nine children from both marriages.  She became by her two marriages, the great-grandmother of three queens of Henry VIII, Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, and Catherine Howard.  Thus making her great-great-grandmother to King Edward VI,  son of Jane Seymour and Henry VIII, and Queen Elizabeth I  the daughter of Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII. 

Ancestral Chain: Through Kirt DeMar WOOD.
Margaret Bourchie, Lady Bryan and Sir Thomas Bryan - 15th great-grandparents
Elizabeth Tilney and Sir Humphrey Bourchier - 16th great-grandparents
Elizabeth Cheney and Sir Frederick Tilney - 17th great-grandparents
also our grandparents:
Anne Woodstock - three times - 18th great-grandparent through both Kirt DeMar WOOD and Camilla SMITH
Edward III - 20, 21, 23rd great-grandparent through both Kirt DeMar WOOD and Camilla SMITH
Anne Woodville and King Edward IV - 17th great-grandparents through Kirt DeMar WOOD
Elizabeth of York and King Henry VII - 16th Great-grand Aunt and Uncle

Born to be Queen - St. Margaret

Queen Margaret of Scotland

1045-1093
“Mother of kings, reformer of the church, canonized catholic saint”
(your grandmother - 27th great gr. 3 times / 28th great gr. 2 times / 29th great gr. 10 times / 30th great gr. 11 time / 31st great gr. 2 times. St. Margaret will show up on you pedigree chart 28 time and her husband Malcolm III King of Scotland will also be there 28 times. These relationships are through your grandfather Kirt DeMar WOOD and St. David King of Scotland son of St. Margaret and Malcolm III, Kirt DeMar WOOD and Princess Matilda "Atheling" also called Edith wife of Henry I King of England she was daughter of St. Margaret and Malcolm III. These relationships are also through your grandmother Camilla SMITH and Princess Matilda "Atheling", as well as Camilla SMITH and St. David King of Scotland.)

 Canonized: 1250 by Pope Innocent IV

"[St.] Margaret of Scotland—beautiful, strong-willed and devout—was descended from England's early Saxon kings, progenitor of a long line of Scottish kings and an influential queen in her own right."

Margaret was born around 1045 in Hungary, the daughter of the exiled English Prince Edward "the Outlaw" Atheling of the English royal house of Wessex, and a German Princess named Agatha. Margaret was raised in the court of St. Stephen, King of Hungary. In 1057 when she was about 12, Margaret and her family returned to England, where the king was St. Edward the Confessor.

After the Norman conquest in 1066 and after her father's death in 1068, Agatha with her son and two daughters resolved to return to Hungary and embarked with that intent. Their ship was driven up the Firth of Forth to Dunfermline, where Malcolm III, king of Scotland, received them hospitably and granted them refuge. He very soon offered the whole family a permanent home with him and asked that the Princess Margaret should become his wife. Margaret, who was very devout and much impressed with the futility of earthly greatness, had very nearly determined to be a nun, but when Malcolm's request was made to Edgar, "the Childe said 'Yea,'" and Margaret was persuaded to marry the king as his second wife.

Malcolm III was born ca 1031 and founded the house of Canmore, which ruled Scotland for more than 200 years, and consolidated the power of the Scottish monarchy. He was the son of Duncan I, who was killed (1040) by Macbeth. Malcolm lived in exile until he defeated and killed (1057) Macbeth near Lumphanan in Aberdeenshire. He succeeded to the throne in 1058, and married Margaret ca. 1068-1070.

Her holiness and wisdom had an impact on Malcolm, causing him to be a better ruler. Malcolm regarded his wife with holy reverence, and with most devoted love followed her advice, and guided by her he became not only more religious and conscientious but more civilized and kinglike. The king's devotion to her and her influence over him were almost unbounded. He never refused or grudged her anything, nor showed the least displeasure when she took money out of his treasury for her charities. Although he could not read, he loved her books for her sake, handling them with affectionate reverence and kissing them. Sometimes he would take away one of her favorite volumes and send for a goldsmith to ornament it with gold and gems. When this was done, he would restore it to the queen as a proof of his devotion.

In addition to her influence with her husband and her sons, who later succeeded their father in ruling Scotland, Margaret took a direct role in helping the people of Scotland. She devoted time and money to works of charity, assisting the poor, the aged, orphans, and the sick. She also prevented a schism between the Roman Church and the Celtic Church, which had been cut off from Rome. In addition, she introduced European culture to Scotland, and did so more successfully than the forceful introduction in England under the Normans.

She was as saintly and self-denying on the throne as she could have been in the cloister. She at once perceived it to be her duty to benefit and elevate the people among whom it was her destiny to live, and this she undertook with the greatest of diligence and the most earnest piety. There existed so much barbarism in the customs of the people, so many abuses in the Church, so much on all hands to reform, that she called together the native clergy and the priests who had come with her, her husband acting as interpreter, and she spoke so well and so earnestly that all were charmed with her gracious demeanor and wise counsel and adopted her suggestions.

Margaret is credited with the introduction of English (Roman) usages into the Scottish church. Among other improvements, Margaret introduced the observance of Sunday by abstaining from servile work, "that if anything has been done amiss during the six days it may be expiated by our prayers on the day of the Resurrection." She influenced her people to observe the forty days' fast of Lent, and to receive the Holy Sacrament on Easter day, from which they had abstained for fear of increasing their own damnation because they were sinners. On this point she said that if the Savior had intended that no sinner should receive the Holy Sacrament, He would not have given a command which, in that case, no one could obey. "We," said she, "who many days beforehand have confessed and done penance and fasted and been washed from our sins with tears and alms and absorption, approach the table of the Lord in faith on the day of His Resurrection, not to our damnation but to the remission of our sins and in salutary preparation for eternal blessedness."

Margaret re-founded the monastery on the Island of Iona (originally founded by Saint Columba, an Irish missionary who found the monastery in 563 in an attempt to convert the Picts). One of her first acts as queen was to build a church at Dunfermline, where she had been married. She dedicated it to the Holy Trinity. She gave it all the ornaments that a church requires, amongst them golden cups, a handsome crucifix of gold and silver enriched with gems, and vestments for the priests. Her room was never without some of these beautiful things in preparation to be offered to the Church. It was like a workshop for heavenly artisans; capes for the singers, sacerdotal vestments, stoles, altar clothes were to be seen there; some made and some in progress. The embroideries were executed by noble young ladies who were in attendance on her.

No man was admitted to the room, unless she allowed him to come with her. She suffered no levity, no petulance, no frivolity, no flirtation. She was so dignified in her pleasantry, so cheerful in her strictness that every one both loved and feared her. No one dared to utter a rude or profane word in her presence.

She did much for the secular as well as for the religious improvement of her country. She caused traders from all lands to bring their goods, and thus introduced many useful and beautiful articles, until then unknown in Scotland. She induced the natives to buy and wear garments and stuffs of various colors. She is said to have introduced the tartans that afterwards became distinctive of Scottish costume. She instituted the custom that wherever the king rode or walked he should be accompanied by an escort, but the members of this band were strictly forbidden to take anything by force from any one, or oppress any poor person. She beautified the king's house with furniture and hangings, and introduced cups and dishes of gold and silver for the royal table. All this she did, not that she was fond of worldly show, but that the Court should be more decent and less barbarous than heretofore.

Numbers of captives were taken in the wars in raids between England and Scotland, and many English prisoners were living as slaves in Malcolm's lands. They were of somewhat better education and superior culture to the Scots and gradually advanced the civilization of their captors. Many of these were set free by the queen.

When she met poor persons, she gave them liberal alms, and if she had nothing of her own to left to give, she asked her attendants for something that she might not let Christ's poor go away empty-handed. the ladies, gentlemen, and servants who accompanied her took a pride and pleasure in offering her all they had, feeling sure that a double blessing would reward their alms when given through the saintly queen.

She provided ships at a place on the Firth of Forth, still called "The Queen's Ferry," that all persons coming from distant parts on pilgrimage to St. Andrews might be brought across the water free of charge. She also gave houses and servants on either shore for their accommodation, that they might find everything necessary for their repose and refreshment and might pay their devotions in peace and safety. Besides this, she built homes of rest and shelter for poor strangers in various places. From childhood she had diligently studied the Holy Writ and having a keen intelligence and an excellent memory, she knew and understood the Scriptures wonderfully well. She delighted to consult learned and holy men concerning the sacred writings, and as she had a great gift for expressing herself clearly, they often found themselves far wiser after a conversation with her. Her love for the holy books made her spend much time in reading and studying such of them as she had. She longed to possess more portions of the Word of God, and she sometimes begged Turgot and other learned clergymen to procure them for her. Margaret brought up her eight children very strictly and piously, instructing them in the Holy Scriptures and the duties of their station and associating them in her works of charity. She made a great point of their treating their elders with becoming respect. The fruit of her good training appeared in their lives for long years after her time.

There were many holy anchorites living in cells or caves in different parts of Scotland. These the queen occasionally visited, conversing with them and commending herself to their prayers. It was not uncommon in the ancient Celtic Church for devout secular persons to withdraw for a time from association with the rest of the world; they devoted themselves entirely to prayer and meditation for a long or short season, and then returned to the ordinary duties of life. A cave is still shown, not far from Dunfermline where tradition says this holy queen used to resort for solitude and prayer.

Her abstinence was so great and her care for her own needs or gratification so small that her feast days were like the fast days of others. She fasted so strictly that she suffered acutely all her life from pain in her stomach, but she did not lose her strength. She observed two Lenten seasons in each year - the forty days before Easter and the forty days before Christmas. During these periods of self-denial, her biographer says that after sleeping for a short time at the beginning of the night, she went into the church and said alone three sets of Matins, then the Offices of the Dead, then the whole Psalter, which lasted until the priests had said Matins and Lauds. She then returned to her room and there, assisted by the king, she washed the feet of six poor persons who were brought there by the chamberlain. After this, she "permitted her body to take a littel slepe or nodde". When it was morning she began her works of mercy again; while the psalms were being read to her, nine little destitute orphans were brought, and she took each on her lap and fed it with her own spoon. While she was feeding the babies, three hundred poor persons were brought into the hall and seated all round it. As soon as Margaret and the king came in, the doors were shut, only the chaplains and a few attendants being present while the king and queen waited upon Christ in the person of His poor, serving them with food and drink. After this meal, the queen used to go into the church and there, with tears and signs and many prayers, she offered herself a sacrifice to God. In addition to the "Hours", on the great festivals, she used to repeat the Psalter two or three times, and before the public Mass she had five or six private Masses sung in her presence. It was then time for her own dinner, but before she touched it she waited on the twenty-four poor people who were her daily care at all seasons; wherever she happened to be, they had to be lodged near the royal residence.

She had a Gospel Book which she particularly prized and often read. It had beautiful illuminated pictures, all the capital letters shining with gold. One of her people, when passing through a stream let it fall into the water, but was not aware of his loss and went on. By-and-by the book was missing and was looked for everywhere, and eventually found at the bottom of the stream; the pieces of silk that were between the leaves to prevent the letters rubbing against each other were washed away; the leaves were shaken to and fro by the movement of the water, but not a letter was obliterated. She gave thanks for its restoration and prized it more than ever. This book, with the water stain on the last leaf, is now in the Bodleian Library.

For more than six months before her death, Margaret could not ride on horseback and was often confined to bed. Malcolm invaded England many times after 1068. supporting the claim of his brother-in-law Edgar Atheling to the English throne. In 1072, however, he was forced to pay homage to William I, and in 1091, to William II. Shortly before Margaret's death, the king, against her advice, made a raid into Northumberland where he and her eldest son, Edward were slain by Norman forces at Alnwick. Malcolm died at Alnwick Castle on November 13, 1093. The queen, who had a presentiment of it, and said to those that were with her, "Perhaps this day a greater evil has happened to Scotland than any that has befallen it for a long time."

Three days after this, she felt a little better and went into her oratory to hear Mass and receive the Holy Communion. She then returned to bed, and growing rapidly worse, begged Turgot and the others who were present to keep commending her soul to Christ with psalms. She asked them to bring her the black rood, which she had brought from Hungary and always regarded with great veneration. It was of gold set with large diamonds and said to contain a piece of the actual cross of Christ. She devoutly kissed and contemplated it, and when she was cold with the chill of death, she still held it in both hands and kept praying and saying the fifty-first psalm.

Her son Edgar, who had gone with the king to Northumberland, came into her room to tell her of the death of his father and brother. Seeing his mother was dying, he was afraid to tell her the sad news; but she said, "I know, I know, I conjure you to tell me the truth," and having heard it, she praised God and died, just three days after her husband, on November 16, 1093 at Edinburgh Castle. The Annals of Ulster for 1093 say, "Maelcolaim Mac Donnacha sovereign of Alban and Echbarda his son, slain by the Franks. His queen, viz. Margarita, died through grief before the end of (three) days."

While her body still lay in Edinburgh Castle, Malcolm's brother, Donald Bane, assisted by the King of Norway, attacked the castle, but he only watched the gate, thinking the other parts of the fortification inaccessible. Margaret's family and her faithful attendants escaped by a postern called the West Yhet, taking with them the revered corpse. A thick mist hid them from the enemy. They crossed the sea and arrived without hindrance at Dunfermline, where they buried her according to her own wish. Malcolm was succeeded briefly by his brother Donald Bane. Margaret's brother, Edgar the Atheling took Margaret's children to England, and for fear of the Normans, gave them privately to friends and relations to be brought up. He afterwards helped to restore them to their country. Margaret's sons continued her work, which contributed greatly to a golden age in Scotland for two hundred years after her death. First to the throne was son, Duncan II. Three other sons also succeeded to the throne: Edgar (r. 1097-1107), Alexander I (r. 1107-24), and David I (r. 1124-53). Margaret and Malcolm's daughter, Edith, also known as Matilda, became the wife of England's King Henry I, the fourth son of William the Conqueror.
Margaret was worshipped without authority until 1250 or 1251 when she was canonized by Innocent IV who ordered her sacred body to be translated from its first tomb. On July 19, 1297, all the arrangements being made the men who were appointed to raise the body, found it impossible to do so; stronger men were ordered to lift it and tried in vain; still more men were brought, but all their strength was unavailing. Evidently the saint objected to what was being done. The clergy and all present prayed earnestly that the mysterious opposition might cease and the sacred rite be completed. After some time an inspiration was granted to a devout member of the congregation; namely, that the saint did not wish to be separated from her husband. As soon as they began to take up his coffin, that of his dutiful wife became quite light and easy to move, and both were laid on one bier and translated with ease to the honorable place prepared for them under the high altar.

In 1693 Innocent XII transferred Margaret's festival from the day of her death to June 10, though November 16 is still the day celebrated in Scotland. The bodies are said to have been acquired by Philip II, king of Spain, who placed them in the church of St. Lawrence in his new palace of the Escorial in two urns. The head of St. Margaret, after being in the possession of her descendant, Queen Mary Stuart, was secreted for many years be a Benedictine monk in Fife; thence it passed to Antwerp, and about 1627 it was translated to the Scotch college at Douai and there exposed to public veneration. It was still to be seen there in 1785; it was well preserved and had very fine fair hair. Neither the heads, the bodies nor the black rood can now be found, but the grave of Margaret may still be seen outside the present church of Dunfermline. Her oratory in Edinburgh castle is a small church with sturdy short pillars and a simple but beautiful ornamental pattern at the edge of its low rounded arches. It was falling to ruin when, in 1853, Queen Victoria had it repaired and furnished with colored glass windows.
Sources: 1- A Dictionary of Saintly Women in Two Volumes, Vol. II, Agnes B. C. Dunbar, George Bell & Sons, London, England, 1905

2- Life of St. Margaret Queen of Scotland, R. M. Turgot, trans. by Forbes Leith

3- The Lives of the Kings & Queens of England, edited by Antonia Fraser, University of California Press, Berkeley & Los Angeles, CA by arrangement with Weidenfeld & Nicholson Ltd., London, England, 1975from: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nwa/margaret.html

see also:
1. MedievalQueens.com.

2. http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/STMARG.htmST. MARGARET QUEEN OF SCOTLAND by David McRoberts

Born to be Queen - Agatha

Agatha Wife of Eadweard the Exile.

Agatha is the mother of St. Margaret.
Your 28th, 29th, 30th,and 31st, and 32nd great grandmother,
a total of twenty nine time,

Agatha married Eadweard "the Exile" sometime before his return to England in 1057. She was still living in 1067, when she accompanied her children as a refugee into Scotland [ASC(D) s.a. 1067 (p. 201); Sim. Durh., c. 155 (2: 190)].
Date of birth: Say 1015×1035?
Place of birth: Unknown.Given the surviving evidence, the best we can hope for is to give a range of dates in which Agatha's birth probably occurred, based on the slim evidence that exists for the ages of her children. Her son Eadgar Ætheling was said by Orderic Vitalis to have been the same age as Robert of Normandy, son of William the Conqueror ["... ducemque sibi coævum ..." OV x, 11 (vol. 4, p. 70)]. Robert was the eldest son (and probably the eldest child) of a marriage which occurred between 1049 and 1053, and probably in 1050 or 1051 [see the page of William I], thus born probably between 1050 and 1054, and such a birthdate would fit well for Eadgar, whom the contemporary Guillaume de Poitiers calls a "puer" in referring to events of 1066 ["Regem statuerant Edgarum Athelinum, ex Edwardi Regis nobilitate annis puerum." Guillaume de Poitiers, ii, 28 (pp. 146-7); see also ibid., ii, 35 (pp. 162-3)], making it unlikely that Eadgar was born before 1050. Agatha's daughter Margaret was married to Malcolm III of Scotland, probably in about 1070 [see the page of Malcolm III for a discussion of this date]. If we assume that Agatha and Margaret did not marry before the age of 17 and did not have a child before the age of 18, then that would place Agatha's birth in 1035 or before, with dates a year or two later possible but highly improbable, and with a birth in 1030 or before providing a more comfortable margin. In the other direction, although it seems very unlikely that Agatha was older than her husband (born 1016×7), the possibility that she was born a decade earlier cannot be strictly ruled out. Jetté places the marriage of Margaret about 1067 ("about ten years" after 1057). This is probably a few years too early [Freeman (1870-9), 4: 783-7; see the page of Malcolm III]. Because Malcolm asked for the permission of Margaret's brother Eadgar to marry her, and because "enough was known about his [Edgar's] personality to separate him from the throne of England in 1066", Jetté argues that the eldest of Margaret's children was born between 1045 and 1050 "at the latest" and thus that Agatha "cannot be born after 1030 and that she was more likely born around 1020" [Jetté (1996), 420]. However, although Agatha may have been born that early, there seems to be no reason to insist on it.
Date of death: After 1067.Place of death: Unknown.As noted above, Agatha was still living in 1067. Ingham places her death about 1068, saying that she is thought to have been deceased before her daughter married king Malcolm [Ingham (1998b), 240 & n. 32]. The reason for this belief would appear to be the fact that Malcolm asked Eadgar for his sister's hand [ASC(D) s.a. 1067]. The Crowland Psalter has the addition of the obituary under 18 March of a person whose name starts with "A", in the same hand as additions giving the obituaries of Eadweard and his brother Eadmund [Keynes (1985), 359-60]. This could be the date of Agatha's death, but the obituary could also be that of Eadweard's mother Ealdgyth (Aldgitha).
Father: Unknown.Mother: Unknown.There have been a number of mutually contradictory theories regarding the origin of Agatha, and a definitive solution is still lacking. The alternatives are discussed in detail in the Commentary section.
Spouse: Eadweard "the Exile", d. 19 April 1057.
Children:See the page of Eadweard "the Exile" for details.
Eadgar "the Atheling", living 1125, claimant to the English throne in 1066.
St. Margaret, d. 16(?) November 1093;
m. 1070×1, Máel Coluim mac Donnchada (Malcolm III), d. 13 November 1093, king of Scotland.
Christina, living 1086, nun at Romsey, prob. d. 1095×1100....

[Agatha's Unknown Ancestors]

...The Theories
The main hypotheses are listed here, along with the labels that they have been assigned for purposes of the discussion below. A few impossible theories which can be easily dismissed are not given labels.
The German Hypothesis (main version):Conjectured father (possible): Liudolf, d. 15 or 23 April 1038, count (Braunschweig).Conjectured mother (possible): Gertrude.
The Russian Hypothesis:Conjectured father (possible): Iaroslav I, d. 1054, grand prince of Kiev.Conjectured mother (possible): Ingegerd, daughter of Olaf, king of Sweden.
The Polish Hypothesis:Conjectured father (improbable): Mieszko II Lambert, d. 10 May 1034, king of Poland.Conjectured mother (improbable): Richenza, daughter of Ezzo, count palatine of Lorraine.
The Bulgarian Hypothesis:Conjectured father (improbable): Gavril Radomir, d. 1015, emperor of Bulgaria.Conjectured mother (improbable): NN, sister of István (Stephen) I, king of Hungary.
The Hungarian Hypothesis:Conjectured father (very improbable): István (Stephen) I, d. 1038, king of Hungary.Conjectured mother (improbable): Gisela, sister of Heinrich II, emperor.
The Cristinus Hypothesis:Conjectured father (very improbable): Christinus, count.Conjectured mother (highly improbable): Oda, daughter of Bernhard, count of Haldensleben.
The German Hypothesis (alternate version):Conjectured father (very improbable): Ernst II, d. 17 August 1030, duke of Swabia.
The Bruno Hypothesis:Conjectured father (very improbable): Bruno, d. 24 April 1029, bishop of Augsburg, 1007-1029, brother of emperor Heinrich II.
The Byzantine Hypothesis:Conjectured father (no reasonable basis): Constantine IX "Monomachos", d. 1055, Byzantine emperor.
Falsely attributed father: Salomon, d. 1087, king of Hungary, 1063-74.[OV; see above for details] Orderic Vitalis is the only early medieval source to name the alleged father of Eadweard's wife. However, the claim is chronologically impossible.
Falsely attributed father: Heinrich II, d. 13 July 1024, emperor.[e.g., Burke (1848-51), 1: ped. cxix; 2: ped. xxxviii] Although the secondary sources giving this relationship of which I am aware do not state sources, it is clear that this theory came about because "filia germani imperatoris Heinrici" was misinterpreted as "daughter of the German emperor Heinrich" [see Appendix 3 for the meaning of germanus]. However, it is virtually impossible that a child of Heinrich II, if one had existed, would have gone unmentioned by continental sources.
Falsely attributed father: Heinrich III, d. 5 October 1056, emperor.[e.g., Baverstock (1832), 20] This comes about by the same misunderstanding as the previous theory. It is chronologically impossible.
Falsely attributed father: Hardicanute, d. 8 June 1042, king of Denmark and England.[Felch (1894), 2, mentions this claim, the ultimate source of which was apparently royal pedigrees published by Reusner in 1592; this reference was pointed out by Todd Farmerie on soc.genealogy.medieval] The supposed logic behind this chronologically impossible theory is unknown....
...Clearly, the different sources say different things about the origin of Agatha. The early accounts we have on Agatha's parentage can be placed in four main categories.

• First, there are the sources in which Agatha is related to an emperor. This includes the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, John of Worcester (and numerous others who use him as a source), and one of the alternate accounts of Ailred of Rievaulx, with the latter two specifying that Agatha was the daughter of a germanus of emperor Heinrich. John of Worcester's genealogical appendix explicitly names the emperor as Heinrich III.
• Second, there are sources in which Agatha is a member of the Hungarian royal family. This includes Orderic Vitalis, Geoffrey Gaimar, and the other account of Ailred. The only one to identify the father is Orderic, and we know that his statement is chronologically impossible.
• Third, there is the interpolation made ca. 1200 into the Laws of Edward the Confessor, which indicates that Agatha was a member of the Russian royal family. Although she is not explicitly called a daughter of king Malesclodus, it is arguable that that was the interpolator's intent.
• Finally, the is the account of William of Malmesbury, who states that Agatha was a sister of the Hungarian queen, whose identity is not specified.

The natural first attempt would be to look for an individual who simultaneously fits into all of the above categories. However, it has not proved possible to find a parentage for Agatha which agrees with all of these sources. Thus, there seems to be the inescapable conclusion that some of these sources are unreliable. The following table indicates how well the various pieces of basic information match with the various hypotheses which have been proposed, ranging from an excellent fit with the statement of the evidence to being inconsistent with the evidence. Some cases which would involve significantly stretching the definition of a word have been rated poor or very poor. Of course, the first two columns are related, but one is more specific than the other. The first two columns assume that any emperor Heinrich is allowed.

As can be seen from the table, every one of the hypotheses rates as inconsistent in at least two columns, and each theory rates as either inconsistent or poor in at least three columns. Clearly, it has not been possible to find a theory which fits well with all of the basic primary evidence. It would be unwise to try to assign a "score" to each of the theories by somehow tabulating the results from this table, which is only a rough guide (and contains some entries which are judgment calls). The evidence for Agatha's parentage is complicated, and depends on many additional factors which could not be easily enumerated on such tables, and which may be weighed differently by different researchers. Also, the information in the table could be potentially misleading. Opponents of the German Hypothesis could complain that the information from the first two columns might not be independent, and that including both gives the German Hypothesis an extra "vote". Opponents of the Russian Hypothesis could complain that the last column is based on a late interpolation. Thus, it is important to consider the comparative reliability of each of the sources....

Included here is only a little of the more than 30 pages dedicated to Agatha at the source below. Links above will take you to the original website. See source: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/agath000.htm

Born to be King

I became curious about my relationship to Edward I King of England because three of his children are my grandparents. The fact we are all spiritual brothers and sisters as well as physical cousins is interesting. We have 15 grandchild relationships through four children of Edward I. Two daughters and a son by Eleanor and Edward I. One son by Marguerite and Edward I.

(Edward I Longshanks, King of England 17/18/19/20/21/22 great grandfather)

House of Plantagenet. Father Henry III of Winchester King of England, Mother Eleanor of Provence. Birth 17/18 June 1239 Palace of Westminster, London, England. Died 7 July 1307 (aged 68) Burgh by Sands, Cumberland, England. Burial Westminster Abbey, London, England.

Edward I was a tall man for his age, hence the nickname "Longshanks". He was also temperamental and this, along with his height, made him an intimidating man and he often instilled fear in his contemporaries. Nevertheless, he held the respect of his subjects for the way in which he embodied the medieval ideal of kingship, both as a soldier, administrator and a man of faith.

Eleonor Castile Queen Consort of England

Eleanor of Castile (1241 – 28 November 1290) was the first queen consort of Edward I of England. Eleanor was born in Castile, Spain, daughter of Saint Ferdinand, King of Castile and Leon and his second wife, Joan, Countess of Ponthieu. Her Castilian name, Leonor, became Alienor or Alianor in England, and Eleanor in modern English. Edward I and Eleanor married at the monastery of Las Huelgas, Burgos on 1 November 1254 there marriage had been arranged by Henry III to secure England’s claim on the duchy of Gascony, in the south of Aquitaine the last possession of the Kings of England in France. Arranged royal marriages in the Middle Ages were not always happy, but available evidence indicates that Eleanor and Edward were devoted to each other. Edward is among the few medieval English kings not known to have conducted extramarital affairs or fathered children out of wedlock. The couple were rarely apart.

Died 28 November 1290 (aged 48–49) Harby, Nottinghamshire. Burial Westminster Abbey, London.

Edward I 'Longshanks' King of England and Eleanor 'Leonor' Princess of Castile & Leon, m. 1254. Their children related to us as grandparent are Joan, Elizabeth, and Edward II.

Joan of Acre Princes of England

Joan, or Joanna, of Acre as she is sometimes referred to, was born in the spring of 1272 in Syria, while her parents, King Edward I and Queen Eleanor of Castille, were on the crusade. She was the only English princess to be born outside of her native land, in the city of Acre, where her name derives from.

Spouse of Princes Joan 1. Gilbert de Clare, 7th Earl of Hertford, 3rd earl of Gloucester on April 30, 1290 at Westminster Abbey. They had 4 children before Gilbert's death in 1295.

2. Sir Ralph de Monthermer, 1st baron Monthermer, a knight in her household, they married in 1297 without her father's consent. Enraged at his daughter's lowly second marriage, Edward I had Monthermer thrown in prison. Joan begged for his release, and the king relented, giving Monthermer the title earl of Gloucester.

Joan of Acre died on 23 April 1307. The cause of her death remains unclear, though one popular theory is that she died during childbirth, a common cause of death at the time. However, historians have not confirmed this to be her cause of death.

22nd great-grandmother
Princes Joan of Acre PLANTAGENET b.1272
[daughter of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
Margaret DE CLARE b.1293
Baroness Margaret DE AUDLEY b.1318
Hugh DE STAFFORD- b.1334Edmund STAFFORD- b.1377
Anne DE STAFFORD b.1400Anne HOLLAND b.1428
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBLE b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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Joan of Acre PLANTAGENET b.1272
[daughter of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
Margaret DE CLARE b.1293
Baroness Margaret DE AUDLEY- b.1318
Hugh DE STAFFORD b.1334Countess Margaret DE STAFFORD of Westmoreland b.1364
Lord John NEVILLE b.1387
John NEVILLE b.1410
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBLE b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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Princes Elizabeth

Elizabeth of Rhuddlan (also Elizabeth Plantagenet; 7 August 1282 – 5 May 1316) was the eighth daughter of Edward I of England and Eleanor of Castile. Of all of her siblings, she was closest to her younger brother Edward II of England, as they were only two years apart in age.

Born 7 August 1282(1282-08-07) Rhuddlan Castle, Denbighshire.

Spouse 1. John I, Count of Holland m. 1297; dec. 1299, no children. 2. Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford m. 1302; wid. 1316.

During Christmas 1315, Elizabeth, who was pregnant with her eleventh child, was visited by her sister-in-law Isabella of France. This was a great honour, but the stress of it may have caused unknown health problems that later contributed to Elizabeth's death in childbirth. On 5 May 1316 (aged 33) she went into labour, giving birth to her daughter Isabella. Both Elizabeth and her daughter Isabella died shortly after the birthing, and were buried together in Waltham Abbey, Essex

22nd great-grandmother
Princess Elizabeth Of Rhuddlan PLANTAGENET of England b.1282
[daughter of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
Margaret DE BOHUN Countess of Devon b.1311
Edward DE COURTENAY b.1329
de Hugh COURTENAY Sir b.1365
Margaret COURTENAY b.1369
Sir William DE GRENVILLE Lord of Kilkhampton, & Bediford, Cornwall b.1397
Sir. Thomas GRENVILLE b.1425
Sir Thomas GRENVILLE Knight b.1449
Sir Roger GRENVILLE b.1477
Amy GRENVILLE b.1513
Robert DRAKE b.1530
William DRAKE b.1564John DRAKE Immigrant b.1600
John DRAKE Immigrant b.1625
Mary DRAKE b.1666
Catherine MARSHALL b.1699Catherine FOWLER b.1723
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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22nd great-grandmother
Princess Elizabeth Of Rhuddlan PLANTAGENET of England b.1282
[daughter of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
Margaret DE BOHUN Countess of Devon b.1311
Sir Philip DE COURTENAY b.1340
John DE COURTENAY b.1380
Philip COURTENAY b.1404
Catherine COURTENAY b.1437
John ROGERS b.1485
John ROGERS b.1507
John ROGERS b.1538
Richard ROGERS b.-John R. ROGERS Immigrant b.1617
Ann ROGERS b.1628
Mary HUDSON b.1644
Katherine HODGES b.1664
Mary DELAND b.1683
Robert ROUNDY b.1704
John ROUNDY b.1726
Uriah ROUNDY b.1756
Shadrach ROUNDY b.1789
Almeda Sophia ROUNDY b.1829
Charles PARKER b.1853
Laura Elizabeth PARKER b.1889Kirt DeMar WOOD b.1923
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22nd great-grandmother
Princess Elizabeth Of Rhuddlan PLANTAGENET of England b.1282
[daughter of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
Sir William, 1st Earl Of Northampton DE BOHUN Knight of the Garter b.1312
Sir Humphrey, 7th Earl of Hereford DE BOHUN b.1342
Eleanor (Alianore) DE BOHUN-13625 b.1366Anne PLANTAGENET Countess of Stafford and Eu b.1383
Anne DE STAFFORD b.1400
Anne HOLLAND b.1428
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBLE b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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Anne PLANTAGENET Countess of Stafford and Eu
is the 2nd gr granddaughter of Eward I by her father Thomas of Woodstock, 1st Duke of Gloucester and the 3rd gr granddaughter of Edward I by her mother Eleanor (Alianore) De Bohun.
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King Edward II
King Edward II

Edward II King of England Born 25 April 1284(1284-04-25) Caernarfon Castle, Gwynedd. He was the first English prince to hold the title Prince of Wales. Called Edward of Carnarvon, was King of England from 1307 until he was deposed in January 1327. He was the seventh Plantagenet king, in a line that began with the reign of Henry II. House of Plantagenet. Father Edward I Longshanks. Mother Eleanor of Castile.

Edward II was married on 25 January 1308, to Isabella of France in Boulogne, the daughter of King Philip IV of France, "Philip the Fair.” Isabella was sister to three French kings. While still an infant, Isabella had been promised in marriage by her father to King Edward II of England the intention was to resolve the conflicts between France and England over land in Gascony and claims to Anjou, Normandy and Aquitaine. On 25 February 1308 the pair were crowned in Westminster Abbey.

Edward sent his wife, Isabella, to negotiate peace terms between France and England. On 31 May 1325, Isabella agreed to a peace treaty, favouring France and requiring Edward to pay homage in France to her brother, King Charles; but Edward decided instead to send his son to pay homage. Isabella formed an alliance with Roger Mortimer in Paris and they plotted against Edward II this lead to the war and abdication of him as king of England.

Died 21 September 1327 (aged 43)? allegedly by murder at Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire.
Burial Gloucester Cathedral, Gloucestershire.

Edward II is remembered for being the first monarch to establish colleges in the universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

21 great grandfather
King Edward II Plantagenet of England
[son of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
King Edward III of England b.1312Thomas of Woodstock, 1st Duke of Gloucester b.1354
Anne PLANTAGENET Countess of Stafford and Eu b.1383
Anne DE STAFFORD b.1400Anne HOLLAND b.1428
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBLE b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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21 great grandfather
King Edward II PLANTAGENET Of England b.1284
King Edward III of England b.1312John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster b.1340
Elizabeth PLANTAGENET Princess of England b.1362
John HOLLAND 2nd Duke Of Exeter b.1395Anne HOLLAND b.1428
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBLE b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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22 great grandfather
King Edward II PLANTAGENET Of England b.1284
[son of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]
King Edward III of England b.1312John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster b.1340
Countess Joan DE BEAUFORD of Westmorland b.1379
Cecily NEVILLE b.1415
Edward IV PLANTAGENET King Of England b.1441Cecily PLANTAGENET of York b.1469
Robert DE WELLES b.1484
Thomas DE WELLES b.1501
Robert WELLES-b.1540
Jane Sarah WELLS b.1572
Sylvester BALDWIN b.1590
Mary BALDWIN b.1625
Deborah PLUMB b.1655
John ROUNDY b.1681
Robert ROUNDY b.1704
John ROUNDY b.1726
Uriah ROUNDY b.1756
Shadrach ROUNDY b.1789
Almeda Sophia ROUNDY b.1829
Charles PARKER b.1853
Laura Elizabeth PARKER b.1889Kirt DeMar WOOD b.1923
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19 great grandfather
King Edward II PLANTAGENET Of England b.1284
[son of Edward I and Eleanor Princess of Castle]King Edward III of England b.1312Edmund of Langley 1st Duke of York b.1342
Richard PLANTAGENET b.0Richard PLANTAGENET 3rd Duke of York b.1411
Edward IV PLANTAGENET King Of England b.1441
Cecily PLANTAGENET of York b.1469
Robert DE WELLES b.1484
Thomas DE WELLES b.1501
Robert WELLES b.1540
Jane Sarah WELLS b.1572
Sylvester BALDWIN b.1590Mary BALDWIN b.1625
Deborah PLUMB b.1655
John ROUNDY b.1681
Robert ROUNDY b.1704
John ROUNDY b.1726
Uriah ROUNDY b.1756
Shadrach ROUNDY b.1789
Almeda Sophia ROUNDY b.1829
Charles PARKER b.1853
Laura Elizabeth PARKER b.1889Kirt DeMar WOOD b.1923
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Spouse=Cecily NEVILLE-13544 and Richard PLANTAGENET 3rd Duke of York-13543 are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are King Edward III of England-13551 and Philippa of Hainault -13552.
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Portrait in Westminster Abbey, thought to be of Edward I,Reign 16 November 1272 – 7 July 1307.

Edward I 'Longshanks' King of England and Marguerite Queen of England "The Pearl of France", m. 1299. Their child related to us as grandparent Edmund of Woodstock.

Queen Margaret (Marguerite of France)

Marguerite of France, House Capetian Dynasty / House of Plantagenet. Father Philip III King of France, Mother Maria of Brabant. Born 1279 ? Paris, France.

Three years after the death of his beloved first wife, Eleanor of Castile, at the age of 49 in 1290, Edward I was still grieving. But news got to him of the beauty of Blanche, daughter of the late King Philip III. Edward decided that he would marry Blanche at any cost and sent out emissaries to negotiate the marriage with her half-brother, King Philip IV. It was also much to Edward's benefit to make peace with France to free him to pursue his wars in Scotland. Philip agreed to give Blanche to Edward on the following conditions: - A truce was concluded between the two countries. - Edward gave up the province of Gascony. Edward agreed and sent his brother Edmund Crouchback, Earl of Lancaster, to fetch the new bride. Edward had been deceived, for Blanche was to be married to Rudolph I of Bohemia and eldest son of Albert I of Germany. Instead, Philip offered her younger sister Margaret, a young girl of 11, to marry Edward (then 55). Upon hearing this, Edward declared war on France, refusing to marry Margaret. After five years, a truce was agreed, under the terms of which Edward would marry Margaret, would regain the key city of Guienne, and receive £15,000 owed to Margaret.

Edward was then 60 years old. The wedding took place at Canterbury on 8 September 1299. Marguerite was never crowned, being the first uncrowned queen since the Conquest.[3]

She never remarried after Edward's death in 1307, despite being only 26 when widowed. She lived out the remainder of her life in Marlborough Castle, by this time a dower house, and used her immense dowry to relieve people's suffering. Her saying was, "when Edward died, all men died for me". She died just 10 years after her husband, 14 February 1318 at Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire. at the age of 36, and was buried at Greyfriar's Church, Greenwich.

Coat of arms of Edmund, Earl of Kent

Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent. He was born at Woodstock in Oxfordshire, the son of Edward I Longshanks, King of England and his second wife, Queen Marguerite. He was 62 years younger than his father, who died when Edmund of Woodstock was only seven. Reportedly, he enjoyed his father's favour.

Married to Margaret Wake, 3rd Baroness Wake of Liddell, daughter of John Wake, 1st Baron Wake of Liddell by Joan de Fiennes, sometime between October and December in 1325 at Blisworth in Northamptonshire.

He was sentenced to death by Sir Robert de Hauville for treason, having supported his half-brother, the deposed King Edward II, by order of the Regents the Earl of March and Queen Isabella, before the outer walls of Winchester Castle. It was said that he believed Edward II to be still alive and had conspired to rescue him from prison. Such was public hostility to the execution that "he had to wait five hours for an executioner, because nobody wanted to do it", until a convicted murderer offered to do the deed in exchange for a pardon.
He was buried on 31 March at the Church of the Dominican Friars in Winchester.

20 great grandfather
Edmund PLANTAGENET of Woodstock, Earl of Kent
[son of Edward I and Marguerite Queen of England "The Pearl of France"]
Edmund PLANTAGENET of Woodstock, Earl of Kent I b.1301Joan of Kent PLANTAGENET Princess of Wales b.1328
John DE HOLLAND Duke of Exeter b.1355
John HOLLAND 2nd Duke Of Exeter b.1395Anne HOLLAND b.1428
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBLE b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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20 great grandfather
Edmund PLANTAGENET of Woodstock, Earl of Kent I b.1301
[son of Edward I and Marguerite Queen of England "The Pearl of France"]Joan of Kent PLANTAGENET Princess of Wales b.1328
Thomas DE HOLLAND K.G. 2nd Earl of Kent b.1354
Elizabeth HOLAND b.1394John NEVILLE- b.1410
Ralph NEVILLE b.1456
Ralph NEVILLE b.1472
Ralph NEVILLE b.1497
Margaret NEVILLE b.1520
George GARDNER b.1535
Thomas GARDNER b.1565
Rachel GARDNER b.1608Thomas NOBLE Emigrant b.1632
Sgt. Luke NOBLE b.1675
Samuel NOBL b.1722
Lydia NOBLE b.1768
Horace Datus ENSIGN b.1797
Martin Luther ENSIGN b.1831
Harriett Camilla ENSIGN b.1859
George Ensign SMITH b.1898Camilla SMITH b.1926
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Spouse=Anne HOLLAND and John NEVILLE are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are Thomas DE HOLLAND 1st Earl De Kent and Joan of Kent PLANTAGENET Princess of Wales.

Spouse=Anne HOLLAND and John NEVILLE are 2nd cousins. Their common ancestors are Hugh DE STAFFORD and Countess Philippa Of Stafford BEAUCHAMP.
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